Achelois

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Unwanted Physical Contact

Posted by Achelois on November 14, 2007

Dubai: A Saudi man is being questioned at the Public Prosecution for allegedly attempting to sexually assault a minor at Ski Dubai last week.   “Around 6.30pm on November 6 Ski Dubai staff was alerted that a male visitor was attempting to assault a minor in the snowcave located in the snow park area,” Ali Al Abdullah, Vice-President, Asset Management for Majid Al Futtaim Shopping Malls, said in a statement.  

A security guard who was heading to the bathroom near the children’s zone of the snow park area heard noises before he discovered what was happening between the suspect and the Omani victim who is believed to be a minor (under the age of 14), added the source.  

A witness who did not wish to be identified, described the attack to Gulf News, saying that people watched on as the alleged assault took place, before security staff stepped in. 

Judicial sources explained that sexual assault cases involving minor victims are treated as ’sex against will’ when the victim is a male and ‘rape’ when the victim is a female.  

(Full article is available on Gulf News of November 13, 2007)

Anyone who is remotely familiar with Dubai will know that news like the one cited above appears every single day under the heading of ‘Nation.’ The news is disturbing, more so because rapists of young boys get away with short jail terms (ranging from a few months to two years only) since the rape is classified as “sex against will” and hence young boys are easy and very frequent victims in the Gulf state. However, reporting sex crimes does give people the hope that at least now information is not censored like before. There is some progress. 

This post is not about sexual abuse of minors or rape per se. This post is about why we should not hide crime. It is about censorship and what it can do to a society.  

I firmly believe that every child should be educated and warned about potential abuse. Children should be taught that they are not at fault if anyone touches them inappropriately and they must inform the accompanying adult at once.  

As a 10 year old child my cousin was French kissed on a shopping trip by a store owner many years ago. Her mother was too naïve and even when she mustered the courage to tell her mother she was told to stop “imagining things.” She was felt up often afterwards and too scared to tell her mother in case she was reprimanded again she began to blame herself and ultimately became a depressed recluse.   

I was touched numerous times as a child but never in England. Does unwanted physical  contact not take place in England? Of course it does but I think my parents were more protective of me in England. I assume now that they never mistrusted anyone in Muslim countries because of the false belief that “nothing wrong happens in the Muslim world.” Yet the man who was doing tawaf with me didn’t think twice about God before pinching my behind several times. This total belief in the religion is one thing and extending it to all the followers all over the world is quite another.  

Nothing massive is prompting me to write apart from the fact that a brave woman came out with her story of how she was sexually abused by a Muslim man and another brave woman reported her story of childhood molestation by a Quran teacher and the women are being given the flak for their bravery.  

Apparently all is well until the victim decides to speak. Tainting a Muslim man’s name is serious crime, more serious than molestation itself. Either the victim is to pretend for the rest of their lives that the abuse never happened or suffer in silence. A friend was raped by her husband for seven long years but she suffered in silence because the husband was a deeply ‘religious’ man and her mother made her believe that there is no rape in marriage. Then last year the boy of someone we know was saved from being raped in the basement of a mosque. It took great courage for his parents to report the assault to the police because of threats of ostracisation from other Muslim families.   

Sexual abuse takes place everywhere and the Muslim world is no exception. Let’s accept it. So-called Muslim men father their step-daughters’ children  and they also rape their sisters (Appeal Court increases sentence for incest-rape, Gulf News of December 12, 2006) just like anywhere else in the world. However, every time a victim reports his/her rape in the Muslim world they are blamed for “sexual promiscuity” and medical reports insist that the victim “had had several intimate relations prior to the incident.”  

Muslim (note: not Islamic) sexuality is pretty twisted at times and any abuse that is reported gets the knickers of some Muslim men in a twist compounded with the blaring reality that many Muslim parents who are born and bred entirely in the West are frozen in time and have no idea what faults can exist in fellow Muslim men in Muslim countries.   

Every time a woman comes out with her story, even if it is of quick feel by some pervert in the street, I see hope. I see hope because when I read it out to my mother she exclaims, “Ya salaam! Mish fil Qahira!!” but holds my daughters hand tighter when she takes her to the loo in a mall.  

The parents of every child whether the child is a girl or boy must be aware of sexual abuse and should possess the heart to butcher the hand of a man who braves butchering the child’s belief in goodness; their future; and their innocence. Anyone who tries to stop a sexual abuse victim from speaking out only because talking about it “will offer fuel to Islam-haters” should think, “What if this happens to my child? .  

45 Responses to “Unwanted Physical Contact”

  1. Sumera Says:

    Theres always been this drive towards maintaing your own reputation and honour and so usually people (especially women) will discourage others from taking action.

    At least in the West paedophilia and sexual abuse are openly discussed. In Muslim countries however they aren’t - they are seen to be “evil acts” done by the “kaffirs in those western countries”

    Head in the sand syndrome.

  2. sf Says:

    I do understand what sumera just stated. But then I also believe that once pple start talking and pointing fingers to their *abusers*, then these *attackers* would get scared incase their names and that of their families would be known. I remember my cousin was saying that in some parts of emirat that if someone is caught, they publish their names and picture on the local newspaper, I hope that is true and it would put an end to this!

  3. sonia Says:

    brilliant post Suroor.
    absolutely the shame surrounding these crimes is what keeps these criminals feeling powerful.

    i found out there is a rapist in my family through my brother-in-law’s side and i only heard about it one summer when i went to bangladesh because someone had told someone else in confidence and one of the maids who has been with the family for a long time overheard and told me to stay away from the person in question during my visit. What kind of situation is that, your own family won’t tell you things. disgusting we cannot even talk about these things in a ‘family context” because it is taboo. of course that is also part of the wider problem of parents never talking to their kids about sex. its like this whole ‘hidden’ world that no one talks about - and the more they don’t talk about it, the more sordid, secret and obsessive it seems to become.

    i also find it astounding “…that people watched on as the alleged assault took place, before security staff stepped in. ” - that is really what i find disturbing.

  4. sonia Says:

    and of course the other problem is - i’ve just read the link to the step-father taking advantage of his step-daughters - the girls apparently got 80 lashes each ( nicely left to the bottom of the article). Now who is going to want to report someone - who is already in a position of authority over them, (e.g. father figure) -therefore making it doubly difficult - when there is a good chance they will be included in the punishment?

    it seems to me the danger is that people are still blaming those who are vulnerable, giving them more agency than they actually had as a vulnerable person, suspecting that they participated willingly to some extent. How awful.

  5. ayesha Says:

    yeah, i have heard the argument that publicizing or talking about it gives people ideas and spreads the perversion, which just makes my blood boil…do we think there is MORE perversion in the West than the East?
    i’ve been reading all the various links from this post and i’m glad to see so much support for speaking out alhamdulillah. i was born and raised in the US but the only time i have experienced this kind of thing was similar to your experience, suroor, while making tawaf around the kaaba when i was 14 yrs old, while walking behind my brother and holding my mother’s hand (makes ya wonder if it would’ve been better for my bro to be walking behind us instead eh? :) ) anyway i came home and shared my experience with friends who used to live in saudi and was amazed to find out how widespread this “casual” molestation is… i always used my story to attack the whole “blame the girl’s outfit” argument - in the ME where this happens so often, the women are usually all abaya’ed up anyway!
    suroor, apart from parents being more protective in the West, i think also potential predators are aware it’s not as easy to get away with it in the West so the harassment is not as open…

  6. Sumera Says:

    The problem with going to court is that things in the East are usually corrupted. The rich (or influential) can “buy” whichever verdict they like - or scare witnesses away, torture them or even kill them etc So to seek “justice” in such places is thought of being a waste of time, money, effort and of course when you know things are so screwed up, the only thing they want to have left is their reputation in the community.

    Its a sad state of affairs.

  7. sophister Says:

    This was a very sad post. I was blissfully unaware that anything like this ever existed until people quite close to me told me their experiences by the hands of family members (who either at that point had passed away, or were Worlds away), and it made me so upset. I forced my sister to tell my Mother - who basically insisted that she stop talking about it.

  8. artemis2 Says:

    head in the sand syndrome drives me crazy. A much needed post.

  9. artemis2 Says:

    There was a Qu’ran teacher here who was found to be molesting children under the table AS HE TAUGHT. It’s just so sad.

  10. jahandost Says:

    Sister, the post made me realize that there is so much ugliness in this world. :( Many of these examples are just sick, sick, sick! How can people even think such thoughts. Especially the examples about the Kaaba and the person teaching the quran, it shows that are people out there who are EXTREMELY twisted in their thinking.

  11. Organic Muslimah Says:

    Thank you for posting about this.

  12. tauslu Says:

    I believe that some men cannot just understand the seriousness of such acts. This is another reason why I believe women should be involved more and more in every aspect of life, including state affairs. Otherwise, men do not just comprehend what certain things are like.

    As these behavior are completely sick, it is even sicker when people use “religion” to cover up their acts.

  13. asma Says:

    I guess we’ve stopped fearing Allah or else our heart would have stopped on the very thought of sins.

  14. Achelois Says:

    I think Ayesha is right in saying that sexual predators in the west are more scared of the consequences and so touching a child in public is now being effectively curbed. In the East, however, I can stand witness that it is very, very common.

    I also wanted to point out something which I didn’t in the post (for a reason) – sometimes even teenage girls should be supervised. They are growing and their hormones are raging and they sometimes not exactly victimize younger girls and boys but ‘use’ them to satisfy their urgent needs. I remember our next door neighbour was a pretty Indian girl my age in London who used to come for sleepovers when my cousins visited us. When we were in college she told me that MY older female cousin made her touch and feel her several times when we were little and she was too scared to tell anyone. I don’t know if that was a contributing factor but that Indian friend grew up to realise that she is lesbian and only the female form turns her on!

  15. a guy Says:

    Disgusting. Why do people go to Ka’ba if they have no fear of God. I didn’t know it was that common.

    My cousin told me she was touched during Umra. Initially she thought it was by mistake because of the proximity and movement of people there but was sceptical when it happened again. But when the man kept following her she realized he was doing it on purpose. She went to him and punched him in the tummy. He stopped following her then.

  16. suhaa Says:

    asalaam alaikum warahmat Allah wabarakatu:
    most muslim men are not like this, in the west..or here in saudi. these unfortunate situations happen in every culture, and amongst people who claim any religion..but your post taints the image of the majority of muslim men. don’t you think there’s enough trash out there being painted in the eyes of people? why not discuss positive things about muslim men..or muslims. because there are an overwhelming amount others who are doing what you are doing-pointing the finger at the negative attributes of self-proclaimed muslims.

    what distresses me the most of this, is that rather than expressing the beauty of tawaaf-you use a really horrible situation that no one should experience and make it sound like the norm around the Kaaba. which it is absolutely not.

    this sort of thing should not be made hidden, it should be exposed, but in purpose of solving the issues, and educating others to be extra careful in its prevention, not just to dish out news like you see on shows with goals of gossip.

    don’t you think muslims have a bad enough image as a whole because of a small number of morons and poor media coverage to portray an accurate image? so why proclaim that because you are muslim you know about the muslim world-and make it sound like that most are rapists and pedophiles who do nothing but abuse their families.

    your story is one sided and thats what gets to me the most, in Islam we are to enjoin what is good and forbid evil. Rather than saying a Muslim man did this or that..we should say a man who claims to be Muslim did this or that…it should be said a muslim man wannabe, or a non-practicing, non-believing muslim..or a kaafir!!!

    may Allah guide all of us…

  17. artemis2 Says:

    In response to Suhaa, I totally disagree. Achelois is pointing out that it happens and we need to acknowledge that. In no way has she suggested that it is the norm. But ignoring it in the way you suggest essentially punishes the victims by not acknowledging their ordeal, and it also does little to prevent it.

    Why is it that because we are given a hard time as Muslims that some think we need to only discuss what is good about us? It’s ridiculous. Only by facing up to our problems can we improve. Enjoining the good and forbidding evil means that we have to accept that it exists in the first place and not sweep it under the carpet.

    You have made me angry. Astagfirallah. Why can’t you think of the sister that inspired this post in the first place? Why should you silence her and not be able to deal with her pain? Where is the mercy in that?

  18. Muse Says:

    Suhaa, sorry but I disagree as well. Achelois is not doing it in the spirit of harming the name of decent Muslim men. I know this because she happens to have one for a husband, and I’m sure there are no shortage of other decent Muslim male relatives and friends in her life. This post is extremely important, simply because it needs to be said and nobody says it. I know it has been eyeopening and helpful for many people.

    Mine is the story that she linked to about being groped in Cairo. I also wrote another post on my blog about despite the crap I’ve gotten from SOME Muslim men (being groped being the least of it), I still remain their “fan.”
    (http://muslimmusings.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/in-defense-of-muslim-men-because-im-a-fan/)

    I think Achelois will agree with me on this - pointing out a societal ill that the Muslim society is NOT immune from (like we like to pretend) does not mean one is saying Muslim men in general suffer from it.

    And yes, these are Muslim men, not men who happen to be Muslim, or who become “kaafir” because they commit a crime. Lets not compound the problem by takfiring each other at the drop of a hat.

  19. Achelois Says:

    Suhaa, Let’s help you with the text, shall we?

    Q. 1 Where does the writer say that “majority of Muslim men” are sexual abusers?
    Ans. No where. Writer never uses the words “majority of Muslim men.”

    Q. 2 Why doesn’t the writer talk about the “beauty of tawaaf”? Does the writer make a reader believe that sexual abuse always takes place during tawaf?
    Ans. The writer doesn’t talk about the beauty of tawaaf because this post is not about Islam, or Haj/Umra/beauty of any religion. This post is about unwanted physical contact that can take place anywhere.

    No, the writer never states that sexual abuse is a “norm around the Kaaba.” She only mentions one incidence but it is supported with the accounts of two other commenters which just proves that groping around Kaaba was not an isolated incidence.

    Q. 3. How can a reader tell this is not a post about religion?
    Ans. The post is not filed under the tag “Islam.” It is filed under: Cultural Shock, Rant & Rambles, Women, heartbreak.

    Q. 4 Does the post “just dish out news like you see on shows with goals of gossip”?
    Ans. While the post does link to news it is primarily based on accounts of other bloggers which can be confirmed by the thesis stating “Nothing massive is prompting me to write apart from the fact that a brave woman came out with her story …” The news clippings are used only to show that sexual abuse takes place everywhere including in the Muslim world.

    Q. 5 Does the writer say that “most Muslim men” are abusers and that abuse only takes place in Muslim countries?
    Ans. No. The writer states, “Does unwanted physical contact not take place in England? Of course it does but I think my parents were more protective of me in England.” She goes on to write, “Sexual abuse takes place everywhere and the Muslim world is no exception.”

    Q. 6 Where in the post does the writer claim that “because she is Muslim she knows about the Muslim world”? Where does she say that “most Muslims are rapists and pedophiles”?
    Ans. No where. The writer is born-Muslim, as much Arab as any hybrid child, has been living in the Arab world for almost nine years. She is no recent-migrant or FOB in the Muslim world having lived in or traveled to KSA, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, and Egypt but she does not claim anything in the post.

    Q.7 Where does the writer claim that a “a Muslim man did this or that”?
    Ans. The writer specifically writes “So-called Muslim men father their step-daughters’ children …”

    Sorry, Suhaa but your reading skills are extremely poor. You can’t begin to deconstruct a text until you comprehend it first. I wouldn’t have been so blunt had you been civil yourself.

    I can’t come to your blog and insist that you write about teaching Applied Linguistics because I find so much beauty in it. Its your blog and its not on Applied Linguistics. Similarly, this blog is not about religion and I shouldn’t be expected to write what you want to read because frankly there are many blogs out there to cater to your needs and also because I don’t write what people want to read.

    Yes, there are Islam haters. They also use words from Muslims to fuel their blogs but honestly they sound extremely ridiculous. I can’t be ‘writing’ a blog if I copy paste words of another blogger and encourage readers to spit on Islam.

    I find Islam beautiful and I don’t feel the need to prove it to anyone. I know what position religiosity holds in my heart and it is for me. But I will never ever pat the backs of corrupt Muslims only because they happen to call themselves the followers of Islam. I wouldn’t support a criminal even if God forbid it was my own child.

    Having said all this let me also point out that there is no dearth of good Muslim men but this blog is not in praise of men. If anything it only discusses the cause of women – Muslim or non-Muslim. I don’t praise men here – Muslim or non-Muslim. Like Muse has pointed out my life is full of amazing Muslim men mashAllah but I don’t need to prove to anyone that they are amazing.

  20. sonia Says:

    i’m going to dive in and say that the more i hear about people going to hajj or umra and groping women the more i think how crazy it is. it seems rather obvious fact to ignore that in religious/social environments ( so not just islam - think monks! think priests and young boys! think Victorian men with their mistresses! ) where people do not feel able to give in to their natural desires in a healthy sanctioned way, then they are going to do something else! something that might not be so suitable - like non-consensual physical contact, and taking advantage of vulnerable people - male or female. attraction and desires become more equated to something ‘dirty, forbidden’ than something beautiful - is it then so surprising these people want to get their fix in a dodgy way? I don’t think so. we need to focus in on the psychology - what turns a person into an aggressor?

    Now I will put myself out there and say, in a lot of places, you see young men out in groups of friends, with girls, so whether they may be their girlfriends or not, they are able to interact with females in a natural way, and then if they like one of them, they might be able to pursue that, they might send a note to the girl etc. maybe they might get together. chances are, he’ll be busy thinking of that girl, and not roving around the streets trying to grope some other random girl/boy who wouldn’t welcome it.

    even better, he has a girlfriend, they spend time together, get used to having a relationship with another human being - which is what young people need at the end of the day. Not be completely ‘repressed’ and then boom! marriage happens and they are thrown into a bedroom with some person, who they dont know how to connect to.

    If middle-aged men are going around groping women on hajj then we have to ask ourselves WHY. And yes, same about Catholic priests and young boys.

    and if you take a good look at the streets of many Western countries today, and in cities in Asia which are more liberal, where when there are couples wandering around holding hands, there are naturally fewer men out as ‘predators’. The funny thing is in so many traditional societies, including Victorian England, in the public sphere, it was usually only men, and those ‘bad women’ - all good women were inside somewhere of course! which creates a problematic divide and turns the outer world into a predatory one. when the outside world is one where you go out with your partner, then of course, over time, the dynamic changes. Taverns in mediaeval England had the same social environment ( in the sense of women going inside) that dodgy bars do in a place like bangladesh now, you’d definitely not be considered a ‘respectable’ woman, and therefore men thought they were licensed to harass you. Until social dynamics change drastically, and more and more women are out on the streets, more and more people are actually having fulfilling relationships instead of being married off to someone they’re not interested in ( yes i wonder why people don’t think about that one more often ) well then expect this sort of thing to not change.

    And one last thing - its not just about the men - perhaps that is more visible, how men react to sexually repressive societies. ( and we can see that it should not be assumed that men as a ‘group’ are threats, and the oppressor - equally many male individuals are also victims of such violence) how do girls react? my two years of living in dhaka as a teenager showed me how married women felt, how they wanted to have affairs so they could capture some ‘romance’, how they fully expected their husbands, much older to them, to be going around hassling other women, especially young women, probably their younger sisters ( !) or the maid, etc. Truly that was an eye-opener. Now again, this is the sort of thing you read about in Puritan society as well, and in Victorian england. For me, its not the location, or the intrinsic nature of society, its about the social dynamics, and social norms we set up.

  21. Muse Says:

    Sonia, I see your bigger point, but I disagree with this:

    “and if you take a good look at the streets of many Western countries today, and in cities in Asia which are more liberal, where when there are couples wandering around holding hands, there are naturally fewer men out as ‘predators’”

    Here in Cairo I see young couples going out, holding hands, looking lovey dovey into each other’s eyes all the time. And yet getting gropped in Cairo is no big thing. It happened yesterday, in broad daylight, to my coworker as we were walking in front of American University in Cairo (AUC), which is the main hangout area for such couples.

  22. ~W~ Says:

    I think it is very important to discuss unwanted physical contact with our children. They should know that their body is private and that there are bad men or women out there who may want to touch them in an inappropriate way. If that should happen they should not allow it and they should tell us about it. We have done that with our two sons from the age of 4 years and we keep reinforcing it every year.
    We warn them to be especially careful in public toilets, school toilets , clubs, friends houses and we have not allowed sleepovers till my older son was 16. My 10 year old keeps telling us we are mean parents because of the no sleepover rule, but we will not change it.

  23. Maya Says:

    Those who want to believe that rape and molestation don’t happen or that those victims somehow brought it on themselves, are merely projecting their own fear of vunerability. Once you accept that these things happen to innocent people, you must accept that they could happen to you as well. Those who reject or degrade the victim are weak, cowardly, and black hearted.

    I do want to point out that in the west however, rape is not taken as a serious crime by the judicial system any longer. On average, rapists get 5 years in jail, and less than 75% of rapists are ever taken to court. Likewise, the victims (often women), are degraded and humiliated in court or by the police who take their report as police officers (I do not lie), are told that most rape’s are false reports. The problem lies with society, and the judicial system. When society is too weak to accept that these tragedies occur, they will excuse them. So, we see blaming of the victim, dismissal of the victims testimony, and short jail terms (rapists get less jail time than those caught smoking marijuana).

    True, perhaps child molestors are much more prosecuted in the west than in the east, but in the larger scheme of things, I simply can’t choose which system is the least evil (and I realize you weren’t asking about that).

    Just my rant!
    Thanks for this post. We all need to talk about these things more.

  24. Achelois Says:

    I would agree with Muse. Street harassment is apparently rampant in New York and this blog (h/t: Shahrzad) : http://hollabacknyc.blogspot.com/ is all about beating street harassment.

    ~W~ I so agree with your approach. My daughter has fewer friends because we ban sleepovers.

  25. Sumera Says:

    We werent allowed sleep overs. Both inviting friends and going over to theirs. That was usually because parents didnt want their daughters sleeping at a friends due to their men (father, brothers etc) around. And most boys parents didnt want “strange” boys in their home around their daughters.

    Doubt i’d let sleepovers either.

  26. sonia Says:

    well Muse i’m not suggesting such things dont happen in Cairo but Cairo - like Dhaka - is a good example of having a wide variety of attitudes. some girls and boys have liberal upbringing, but similarly a lot don’t. Some parents wouldn’t let their kids mix. SO *they* have to get their fix in secret.

    In dhaka, its the same thing, there are lots of guys on the street, whose job it seems to be to hang out on the street! there are also people who hang out in mixed groups,. as far as i can see, the guys who hang about on the street catcalling, don’t seem to have female friends hanging out with them - if they were in a mixed group, they’d think twice about their behaviour, in front of the girls. well that’s what i think anyway.

    the point is unless you get to a stage where its common/or the majority thing to have women out and about, and its not thought that such women are ‘bad or loose’ ( and let me say, women have a big part to play in keeping up the idea that only ‘loose’ women would go out and ‘hang about’ ) - then you are going to have trouble with many men thinking it is ok to behave like that on the street.

    So whilst some are mixing freely, clearly there are others who are frustrated.

    and obviously you have dodgy men in London etc. - and yes of course you have to be careful, but the wider issue is about a societal values. frankly, in my own culture, my family will say well you shouldn’t have been out there in the first place, didn’t we tell you to stay at home! - when it comes to hanging around in Bangladesh.

    And mY wider point is that there is no point ranting about things and blaming men, unless we also want to actually understand how societal attitudes keep reinforcing problematic behaviour, and allowing such behaviour to be so widespread as to scare people off the streets.

  27. Mezba Says:

    Sex and male-female relations is actually very odd in the Middle East (and other Muslim) countries.

    A person I know very well got married recently in Dubai. He told me it was strange when they went out - he felt awkward holding her hand because he felt people would stare and rebuke and get offended if he held his wife’s hand or put an arm around her. Yet we wouldn’t think twice about such an action in the West - yet it’s an Islamically sanctioned action and nothing’s wrong with it!

    When have we become such prudes? Most problems with reporting sexual crimes here occurs because of a sense of ’shame’ that is attached to the victim. Also no one talks sex and sex ed to kids and people here. In Canada, right at an early age kids are taught that their bodies are private and if anyone touches them they are to report it. Nothing equivalent in East.

  28. brnaeem Says:

    AA- Achelois,

    Thank you for this much needed dialogue. I will be posting on a similar topic in the near future, as I was equally moved by both Unique’s and Half-cup-of-Chai’s posts.

    I would only add (and I’m sure you and your readers will agree) that this is not a *Muslim* issue – neither the disgusting act nor the communal head-in-the-sand syndrome.

    The act is an act of power and abuse, carried out by politicians, employers, clergymen, and Quran teachers alike – give a twisted individual power and he will find a way to abuse it for his sick benefit. It has nothing to do with Catholicism or Islam or Atheism.

    Secondly, the act of covering up for the perpetrator is found in many traditional societies where honor and family name carries much weight. And of course most of the Muslim world falls into this category, so we clearly have to address this issue. But I would venture to say that it is equally endemic in Africa and South America or Eastern Europe, where traditional values still rule the day.

    My point is not to sidestep the issue, for we definitely need to address it head-on, but to acknowledge the root causes of the problem and not get caught up in the peripheral issues.

  29. rawi Says:

    Achelois: Thank you, firstly, for speaking about such an important issues. Thanks also for your thoughtful, precise and remarkable response to that one reactionary comment up there.

    “Apparently all is well until the victim decides to speak.”

    This statement is right on, because it addresses one of the most important factors in all of this: power. Silencing the victim, or blaming the victim for the crime, is the oldest and worst strategy in the book.

    In terms of some of the discussion re. gender dynamics, sexuality, etc — I would insist that it’s not helpful to resort to generalizations or essentialisms (like “Eastern” or “Western” society). A claim such as gender relations are odd/abnormal in the Middle East is problematic because it’s loaded with uncritical assumptions. The Male-Female encounter is a fundamental human problem, and has manifested itself in various way in every human society. What else did Freud spend his entire life racking his brains about?

    I believe the problems are much more complex than we generally tend to think. Terms like ‘repressive’, ‘prudish’, etc can’t just be taken as given and should be subjected to deeper critical analyses. While I also intuitively think that more “open” societies are favorable to weeding out “perversion”, maybe that’s not necessarily true. Maybe the problem lies elsewhere.

    We cannot (yet) make claims like this or that society has more perversion. I think we’d all agree that the “West” is relatively sexually “liberated” (whatever that means), and yet Western society also produces the weirdest and most bizarre/disturbing forms of sexual practice–or so I gathered from a feminist anti-pornography conference earlier this year. When it comes to addressing problems as a whole, I do think carefully researched empirical data is important, rather than ‘intuition’ or anecdotal evidence. The country with the highest rates of rape in the world is neither USA nor Pakistan: it’s South Africa.

    Bottomline: I’m not arguing for or against anything, I’m just saying we need to be constantly questioning our assumptions. And while we’re do that, we need to speak up and fight for the victims of very real crimes or assault/abuse happening any minute, anywhere.

  30. an ex- blurker Says:

    Achelois, thank you very much for this much needed post. I have been a blurker but this post made me want to speak to you.

    I’m trembling as I write this. When I was about 5 yrs old my father’s cousin’s husband visited us and my mother was as usual totally oblivious to where we were. We are five sisters and we used to live without our father in Karachi. While my sisters were busy he grabbed me between his legs and made me rub his private parts. I was too young to notice it was something awful but I still felt terrible about it. I told my mother who told my father but nothing happened. Years later this same man’s son proposed marriage to me. He is much older and we didn’t get married but whenever I look at him I remember what his father did to me. I wonder if he did it to other children. I also wonder how he looks into his grandchildren’s eyes. He has five granddaughters.

    I am still angry with my mother for not looking after her daughters. I was sexually molested several times in Karachi in buses on the streets in shops and I feel very very angry that I could do nothing to protect my body from groping hands.

    I am afraid that women who treat sexual molestation lightly only because they have not experienced it are putting their children at risk. I beg all mothers and fathers who are reading this to be vigilant. Your children need you.

  31. another ex-blurker Says:

    I was shocked to read about what happened to you and other commenters during tawaf. It’s horrible. Were they really human beings or shaitan’s forms, I wonder. To do something like that in such a holy place. If the sawab of 1 rakah there is 100,000 times, I would think the sin of doing something like that would also be multiplied as much. Perhaps the muslim Ummah is suffering so much because of such sins.

    Before reading your article, I never heard of any such thing. I went to Umrah several times and Hajj too. Thankfully such things never ever happened to me. In fact, it never crossed my mind that such things could happen. It may have helped that my father always did tawaf behind us, one hand on my mum’s shoulder and another on mine. I assume the reason was to protect us because it is possible to be pushed and shoved by strangers when it is so crowded. Did he know such things existed in the world, I wonder?

  32. sonia Says:

    http://anupkaphle.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/first-raped-then-sentenced-to-jail/

  33. Achelois Says:

    Ex-blurker 1: I’m so sorry to hear your story. I swear upon Allah that my only intention of writing this post was to make parents aware that sexual molestation takes place ‘everywhere.’ I also wanted people to stop harassing the victims of abuse. I don’t like how the bloggers who came out with their stories are being accused. I’m sure your story will teach mothers and fathers to be attentive.

    Ex-blurker 2: The reason why I mentioned that incident around Kaaba was to show that parents need to be aware that their children are safe everywhere because molesters have no morals. It did gave a bad start to my first umra experience but I have been to Mecca several times afterwards and Alhamdulliah nothing happened so it was not like it has to happen to everyone.

    Sonia, Mezba, Naeem and Rawi, you each have something important to say and to be honest I’m agreeing with each one of you in part. I think we need to acknowledge that molestation takes place all around the world and not just in the west or in the east. We also have to accept that Muslim world is no exception.

    Sonia that link is so sad. It is a huge disappointment.

  34. suhaa Says:

    taq’Allah…

    looks like i hit a nerve or 2 with you, didnt mean for u to get on your defense, but you do leave it open to those who wish to comment, with me or against me that is your choice, never did i ask you to write about what i want to read…

    as far as not talking about religion/islam…kind of ironic seeing that as muslims religion is actually a way of life, not just a religion-correct?

    i didnt mean to anger or annoy you, just adding my view to it, calling it how i see it…and maybe it surprised you as i can see your commentors seems to agree with mostly what you say…

    insult me as you wish, think of me as wish..Allah is our witness of all of our affiars, even if a post isnt filed under “islam”…

    may Allah forgive you, me, and all of us, no one is immune of this need…

  35. You know me Says:

    suhaa is running the risk of sounding absurd now.

  36. sonia Says:

    obviously molestation takes place around the world - why would anyone assume that by saying something about a specific set of cases - one is denying that? the very point is that in societies that do not talk about sex openly or are not uncomfortable - its, all cloaked in secrecy - lovers having sex, and molestation. if there’s less secrecy, molestation is exposed for the psychotic and disturbed activity it is, instead of people confusing all desire with molestation, and then hiding it all.

    humans appear to behave the same everywhere, the way i see things differ is frankly how honest we can be about it. it is most definitely true that in muslim societies, we are very conservative about sex and sexual matters. since that is the society i come from, naturally i am going to be critiquing it, and i know much more about the dynamics. i am not going to apologise therefore for focusing on muslim/indian subcontinent dynamics. we have lagged behind many countries in terms of how we deal with molestation and abuse - again i am not going to pretend that is not true. Many commenters here have grown up in such countries and perhaps take those laws and justice for granted. it is not for no good reason you dont see desis and immigrants moving back to the ‘home countries’.

  37. Achelois Says:

    Sonia I will agree with you. I think Mezba once forwarded an article to me which discussed how young Muslim girls are being raped in some part of Canada but their parents are too shy to report the crime because they fear for their future as brides.

    Although Islam openly discusses sex and sexuality, Muslims are very conservative as a rule. Plus, some strongly feel that anything bad should not be talked about because that way we will be forbidding evil. However, again Islam urges Muslims to correct an incorrect behaviour by hand, through speech, or if nothing else then in the heart.

    I will say it again, every single day we read about some boy being molested or raped in some Gulf country. More often than not the sexual crime is committed by Muslim men. What happens after the crime is reported is the main questions. Denial of charges; false medical reports; blaming the victim; short sentence; appeal; shorter sentence. The End.

  38. Achelois Says:

    Suhaa, you didn’t hit any nerve; you did not read the post properly and jumped to conclusions. Yes, you annoyed me but only because you were judging me as a Muslim and my intentions which I really dislike that. I have not given anyone the right to judge me as a Muslim. Full stop.

    Commenters don’t always agree with me but when they disagree they make sense; they read the post well; and they are civil. Some readers don’t agree with me at all and if anything they think I’m a damned fool to believe in Allah and Muhammed.

    Perhaps it annoys you that most commenters agreed with me?

    I was not being defensive. I was being offensive; I agree. When you say “Allah is our witness of all of our affiars, even if a post isnt filed under “islam”…” you have already made up your mind. It is an excellent tactic to scare people off from opening their mouths – tell them that Allah is watching.

    I want Allah to be my witness because He knows exactly what was in my heart when I wrote this post whether or not it was filed under “Islam.” Allah also witnesses when people wrongly accuse others and blame them for what they never did because only He knows the truth.

    Indeed no one is immune from the need to ask for forgiveness and I will bow down on my knees right now and ask Allah for forgiveness if there was even an iota of malice or hatred in my heart for all Muslims or Islam. All I wanted to say was that it is wrong to hide crime only because a Muslim commits it and Muslims are committing crimes everyday just like anyone else.

    I will not go into Islam being the way of life so my entire blog is on Islam directly or indirectly. That is a very weird argument. I only wanted to let you know that you can’t act holier than others all the time. It doesn’t always work that way.

  39. Sumera Says:

    There was nothing in Achelois’ entry that would be seen as “blasphemous”. And she definitely wasn’t blaming Islam for the bizarre behaviour of some Muslims.

    To make the above connection shows either Achelois’ post wasn’t read properly or it wasn’t understood.

  40. sonia Says:

    yes there was absolutely nothing in Achelois’ entry that could be considered blasphemous - for blasphemy - please look elsewhere! however it is very significant that someone who takes the time and effort to write very well-constructed articles, replies to comments etc. ( and that is very significant, a lot of us, me definitely, especially when i feel very strongly, write things very quickly without stopping to think) should be receiving such accusations of blasphemy.

    Very sad and i’m sorry to say, but its generations of such kind of finger pointing at the people who do try and say something, that’s kept everyone schtum. Here it is in practice, right here, right now.

  41. Irving Says:

    An excellent and much needed post, and one that should be written every hour of every day and reprinted in the Muslim newspapers over and over again. Male honor is a no excuse for whitewashing such crimes again women and children, girls and boys. It is a horror of a male dominated society, and most Muslim societies are just that, even in the West among Muslim neighborhoods. It takes a concerted effort by women speaking out, and organizing and fighting for a voice for it to change, for the victim to stop being punished, for the molester/rapist/groper to be convicted and sentenced to a long prison term.

    I cannot say enough about the injustice of it.

    Ya Haqq!

  42. aka1030 Says:

    Thank you for writing this Achelois.

    Suhaa, I really don’t know where to begin with you first comment. As some people have said, this was not the purpose or intention of Achelois post, and it was quite obvious.

    You’re right, however, that Islam has a bad image because of a small number of idiots and biased media coverage. But, if we are to change any of this, we have to start within our own global community. We have to work to expose people like this and keep dialogue about abuse open to influence some change. If this change happens, then maybe we can better our community and then influence a positive image.

    I can understand why you’d want to jump to the defensive - you’re being protective of your religion. I think even I do it sometimes. But the context of this post was to explain recurring problem that is being ignored and unfairly dealt with in the Islamic community around the world. It was not specifically about ‘the Muslim family’ or ‘tawaf’.

    I was born and raised in a Muslim family in the West - I’ve only been to the middle East once when I was young and my parents did the Hajj and I remember going afterwards to do umrah with them. I was about 6-7 and even now I remember the beauty of tawaf. There is no incident in this world that can mar the beauty of the entire experience of visiting the ka’ba. Even I can tell you that after visiting there only as a young child and only have flashes of memory of it. And after reading stories about the groping and even theft that goes on there. Those are the actions of other people, not in the realm of Islam or what the tawaf or anything related to it is about.

  43. sonia Says:

    Again, that horrifying saudi arabia rape case, is that both man and woman in the car were gang-raped, the assault was videoed on a cell phone, but the charges were for kidnapping, as rape could not be ‘proved’ and both victims were sentenced to lashings. and upping the sentence for the girl because she made a ‘fuss’ and wanted justice - a perfect example of how to make sure no one ever reports a rape case again. And this ‘justice’ from the Saudi authorities. I hope there will be more and more people condemning this awful state of affairs.

  44. Samah Says:

    Awesome post Suroor - Irving pointed me in the direction with my own short post on similar.

    Having grown up here in the US the situation was pretty similar in my particular neighborhood and child sexual abuse often went unreported amongst my generation. As a child we used to wait for the bus in the morning and a man would often come by in his car and talk with some of the children. One day he came over and called the whole group of children over, and I don’t know why but I never went near his car and didn’t this time either, but all of a sudden all of my friends became quite and just walked away from the car. Turned out he was naked from the waist down. I never told my parents as I would just be too embarrassed and I hadn’t actually walked up to the car to know for sure - I was only about 8 years old at the time. It is one of the reasons it took children that were molested by priests to come forward later in life(often 10-20 years later). I believe the reason it wasn’t reported by children back in those days is because at that time it was rare if ever to hear of such and so it was easy to convince the child to not say anything. My best friend that lived across the street from me also acknowledged that she had been molested by her parents best friend who owned a local store - she confessed after he had been charged with child molestation (to another child) when we were in our late teens.

    I whole heartedly agree that by hiding these cases we do an injustice. This post was spot on.

    Anyway - Irving was kind enough to point me to your post as I have a similar one up at mine.

    I’d like to say to Suha the same I said to someone else as a reply:

    “If you keep arguing that violating the rights of women is okay because in the end it protects her .. all you do is support those in the system that grossly abuse her.

    What would you tell your sister or mother to do if she was raped in a country where women who report rape may be charged with zina? Do you think it would be in her best interest to report it?

    Even here in the US where women do not have to fear being punished for being rape, rape often goes unreported because of shame/embarrassment a woman might be feeling. Allah forgive us for the conditions that have been created for women in supposedly “Islamic” states. Islam gives women more rights and protection than any other religion and we allow men who call themselves Muslim to insist otherwise. Shame on us.”

    If we, as Muslims, ignore these things and focus on the positive, all we do is provide support for those that are commiting injustices to women and children - we then become accomplices. Allah will be our judge.

    (really missed reading your posts suroor!)

    Salams

  45. Achelois Says:

    Thank you Irving, AKA, and Samaha for your comments.

    Samaha, I’m sure experiences of your friends must have made you more careful. It just makes me sad that there are many people who are ready to kill innocence.

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